Comments on: Lectio Divina as a tool for… creating an Action Plan?!? http://www.anamchara.com/2009/12/12/lectio-divina-as-a-tool-for-creating-an-action-plan/ Carl McColman ~ The Fullness of Joy is to Behold God in All Wed, 23 May 2012 13:15:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: The Right Way and the Wrong Way « The Website of Unknowing http://www.anamchara.com/2009/12/12/lectio-divina-as-a-tool-for-creating-an-action-plan/#comment-5259 The Right Way and the Wrong Way « The Website of Unknowing Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:19:10 +0000 http://anamchara.com/?p=2678#comment-5259 [...] that lectio divina culminates in “action” rather then “contemplation” (see Lectio Divina as a Tool for… Creating an Action Plan?!?), a Facebook friend of mine who is a Catholic author says the following: I read your blog comments [...] [...] that lectio divina culminates in “action” rather then “contemplation” (see Lectio Divina as a Tool for… Creating an Action Plan?!?), a Facebook friend of mine who is a Catholic author says the following: I read your blog comments [...]

]]> By: Jo http://www.anamchara.com/2009/12/12/lectio-divina-as-a-tool-for-creating-an-action-plan/#comment-5258 Jo Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:10:39 +0000 http://anamchara.com/?p=2678#comment-5258 The life of the contemplative is what I have been seeking my whole life. Formerly, I followed a Pharasaic mentality that inner devotion, study, and passion must manifest itself in some outward, physical, tangible fruit. Or what was the purpose? Sadly, this usually turned out to be my work not His and I could not do a very good job because someone was either complimenting me or deriding me and I would adjust accordingly. The Purpose was that it was a means to change me from within and only He was able to reach there. Thank God (literally) that He did. Is it just me or do the words in the 4th part just jump out and harshly slap you? ACT - What I should do???? They just do not fit! The life of the contemplative is what I have been seeking my whole life.

Formerly, I followed a Pharasaic mentality that inner devotion, study, and passion must manifest itself in some outward, physical, tangible fruit. Or what was the purpose? Sadly, this usually turned out to be my work not His and I could not do a very good job because someone was either complimenting me or deriding me and I would adjust accordingly.

The Purpose was that it was a means to change me from within and only He was able to reach there. Thank God (literally) that He did.

Is it just me or do the words in the 4th part just jump out and harshly slap you?

ACT – What I should do????

They just do not fit!

]]> By: Peregrin http://www.anamchara.com/2009/12/12/lectio-divina-as-a-tool-for-creating-an-action-plan/#comment-5257 Peregrin Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:18:06 +0000 http://anamchara.com/?p=2678#comment-5257 Hi - my understanding is that the traditional practice of Lectio will naturally result in actions and changes in lives (both personal and communal) but ONLY via the very practice and culmination of contemplatio. In essence, I think (if i get the ad correct) a problem lies in the lower, unredeemed will 'making a decision' to 'impove' our lives as opposed to deep contemplatio, whereby we are remade by God or in partnership with him. This is what disturbed me about the ad. It reduces lectio to another self-help strategy and could remove the transcendent nature of God from the practice. Really then it is no longer divine and becomes fit for a round of the talk shows and gift-box spirituality ready for the Christmas market :) O Hi – my understanding is that the traditional practice of Lectio will naturally result in actions and changes in lives (both personal and communal) but ONLY via the very practice and culmination of contemplatio.

In essence, I think (if i get the ad correct) a problem lies in the lower, unredeemed will ‘making a decision’ to ‘impove’ our lives as opposed to deep contemplatio, whereby we are remade by God or in partnership with him.

This is what disturbed me about the ad. It reduces lectio to another self-help strategy and could remove the transcendent nature of God from the practice. Really then it is no longer divine and becomes fit for a round of the talk shows and gift-box spirituality ready for the Christmas market :)
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]]> By: Ken http://www.anamchara.com/2009/12/12/lectio-divina-as-a-tool-for-creating-an-action-plan/#comment-5256 Ken Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:16:42 +0000 http://anamchara.com/?p=2678#comment-5256 @Mairnéalach : meditatio is defined as kind of a deeper reflection on what you read, really taking it into your heart. contemplatio is resting in God beyond words & thoughts - really letting go. @Mairnéalach : meditatio is defined as kind of a deeper reflection on what you read, really taking it into your heart. contemplatio is resting in God beyond words & thoughts – really letting go.

]]> By: Mairnéalach http://www.anamchara.com/2009/12/12/lectio-divina-as-a-tool-for-creating-an-action-plan/#comment-5255 Mairnéalach Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:07:08 +0000 http://anamchara.com/?p=2678#comment-5255 Tell me more about this topic. What is the difference between meditatio and contemplatio? Tell me more about this topic. What is the difference between meditatio and contemplatio?

]]> By: Carl McColman http://www.anamchara.com/2009/12/12/lectio-divina-as-a-tool-for-creating-an-action-plan/#comment-5254 Carl McColman Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:05:26 +0000 http://anamchara.com/?p=2678#comment-5254 Far be it from me to advocate for quietism, which is the "reverse" danger I presume you're referring to. But just because quietism is a snare to be avoided is no justification for re-defining <i>lectio divina</i> in terms of action. Contemplation is not better than the active life, no matter what the author of <i>The Cloud of Unknowing</i> might say. But it <i>is</i> different. And ours is a culture that privileges the active life above contemplation, to deleterious effect; and if its advertising is any indication, then this "Catholic Prayer Bible" falls squarely into that trap. Far be it from me to advocate for quietism, which is the “reverse” danger I presume you’re referring to. But just because quietism is a snare to be avoided is no justification for re-defining lectio divina in terms of action. Contemplation is not better than the active life, no matter what the author of The Cloud of Unknowing might say. But it is different. And ours is a culture that privileges the active life above contemplation, to deleterious effect; and if its advertising is any indication, then this “Catholic Prayer Bible” falls squarely into that trap.

]]> By: Mairnéalach http://www.anamchara.com/2009/12/12/lectio-divina-as-a-tool-for-creating-an-action-plan/#comment-5253 Mairnéalach Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:26:32 +0000 http://anamchara.com/?p=2678#comment-5253 Although pragmatism is a danger, so is the reverse. "He who hears my words and puts them into practice is like the one who built his house upon the rock." Although pragmatism is a danger, so is the reverse. “He who hears my words and puts them into practice is like the one who built his house upon the rock.”

]]> By: Darrell Grizzle http://www.anamchara.com/2009/12/12/lectio-divina-as-a-tool-for-creating-an-action-plan/#comment-5252 Darrell Grizzle Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:56:03 +0000 http://anamchara.com/?p=2678#comment-5252 I think this is a plot (probably instigated by the Vatican, or perhaps the Masons) to get contemplatives to set some goals in their lives. :o) I think this is a plot (probably instigated by the Vatican, or perhaps the Masons) to get contemplatives to set some goals in their lives. :o )

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